veil of alaris systems,spells &loot soe webcast

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veil of alaris systems,spells &loot soe webcast

Postby Derdarr » Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:44 pm

link to youtube upload from soe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-2f-DmOJDg

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Re: veil of alaris systems,spells &loot soe webcast

Postby Farrens » Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:27 am

I see problems with the monk thing.

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Postby Derdarr » Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:41 pm

problems how, other than every other class wanting the same ability? as long as they come up with a way that it cant be chain cast.. long timer...something or other i dont see it being a bad thing. heck we're lucky to have two monks on a raid if it has any recast timer at all i dont see it being that effective at skipping a raid mechanic

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Postby Tarvas » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:02 pm

Old...white....guys.

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Postby Derdarr » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:49 pm

for anyone that didnt watch the video what farrens has brought up is a monk ability to silence a caster mob to enable pulling it without it standing there casting spells before moving.

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Re: veil of alaris systems,spells &loot soe webcast

Postby Farrens » Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:34 am

my main concern is multiple monks on raid encounters. Unless they put in something like "can only by cast on non-combative mobs" like certain ranger nukes.

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Postby Jhereg » Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:18 pm

Our pulling mez doesn't work if we have aggro, its likely the same. Meaning we can use it on a raid mob maybe mid fight if we dump aggro only.

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Re: veil of alaris systems,spells &loot soe webcast

Postby Tarvas » Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:45 pm

I hate monks. Anyone who plays a monk should give me 1,000,000,000 plat!
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Postby Goofydoofy » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:34 am

The most bizarre thing here is that anybody has any concerns about this at all.
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Re: veil of alaris systems,spells &loot soe webcast

Postby Derdarr » Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:48 am

Goofy to be honest, the dev's have the same concern's as farrens and will only include this ability if they can be sure they've done all they can to make it useful but not able to break a raid mob's mechanic's. IF you could stack enough monks to make a boss mob unable to cast you have to agree it would make many events silly easy.

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Postby Farrens » Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:01 pm

Yeah, I see how it could be silly to complain about an ability that would make raid events easier. But in this case it would suck most of the challenge out. If I want to breeze thru everything I'll go play WoW.

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Re: veil of alaris systems,spells &loot soe webcast

Postby Sharrien » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:43 am

If they just make it only land if the mob's hate list is empty then it would probably work out as intended without breaking raid encounters.
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Re: veil of alaris systems,spells &loot soe webcast

Postby Finamdar » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:43 pm

not sure if that's possible within code, I know they could make it only usable when out of combat but with imitate death/FD could still exploit it pretty easily.

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Re: veil of alaris systems,spells &loot soe webcast

Postby Tchien » Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:42 am

I wanna know what suck-ass monks were crying about needing such a tool in the first place. Sure, spell-casters can be a pain to pull, but it just takes a different technique. Blocking line-of-sight works amazing wonders. The same trick works for even non-monk pulling.

I doubt any suggested ability would have a duration lasting longer than 6-12 seconds; so even with maxxed ID, it would take a LOT of monks to lock something down. Not impossible, but something I find unlikely to find in the field.

They may decide to piggyback some sort of immunity onto raid mobs making all the worry moot. Or they may fail to get it to work right and we don't see it at all. It's still in the development phase, don't sweat it too much yet.
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Re: veil of alaris systems,spells &loot soe webcast

Postby Ommina » Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:28 am

Or just go the high-sun route and not have it landed on "would take an army to defeat" tagged mobs?

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Re: veil of alaris systems,spells &loot soe webcast

Postby Micholi » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:56 pm

These EQ devs should NOT do their own PR rep. I feel as though I'm listening to my high school teacher give a boring lecture. Hire someone to present the material so I don't fall asleep.