The Past Should Never Be Forgotten

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The Past Should Never Be Forgotten

Post by Pallistous » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:59 pm

The other night it was debated when, where, and who created Celestial Navigators. It dawned on me that if no record is kept then this information that should be important to all of us would be lost. So I went to the old web page and logged in. I was able to find some posts of information about us, and there were some pictures posted of the evening we were created, but the links had long expired and have now been lost. However, the information is still in tact. I will post what I have found and will continue to try and find more so that our history will not be lost.

Our Creation was:
September 8, 2001 --

On this night in Western Commons, a group of friends and kindred spirits met to formalize our commitment to Norrath and each other. Most of us had already made this pledge, if only in our hearts, weeks before. We had come to trust one another and rely on the skills that each of us possessed. Life is a treasure meant to be shared with others and the bond of friendship we had formed was beyond measure. So, on this night we raised our weapons to the stars and announced the birth of Celestial Navigators.

We are a multi-class and multi-race Guild on the Vazaelle Server. Our guild formation was based on friendship. Our recruiting is based on friendship. Therefore we tend to stick together and most times you will see the vast majority of us in the same zone. We have a mature attitude, a coopoerative nature, and a friendly manner.

I anyone is interested in learning more about our Guild, they are welcome to contact any of the Guild Members to arrange a meeting and grouping.

Sensei Jhereg, 63rd Iksar Monk, Celestial Navigators
Vanidor Silverbranch, 40th Wizard, Celestial Navigators

Our Founding Fathers and Mothers where:
Danielaa (now Tadie)
Gyff (now Wist)
Vanidor (now Jhereg)

Sensei Jhereg, 63rd Iksar monk, Celestial Navigators
Vanidor Silverbranch, 40th Wizard, Celestial Navigators
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RE: The Past Should Never Be Forgotten

Post by Jaffod » Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:25 pm

wow some blast from the past names on there - I think the only person I do not know on that list is Tooth - although Majias is only slightly familiar.

Did Aza go to Walkers or am I getting my guilds/timelines mixed up?

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RE: The Past Should Never Be Forgotten

Post by Jhereg » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:27 pm

Azargatha went to AD.

Majias was the original Ottmani, he owned Blademoor a dwarf paladin also at one point I think. Tooth was an troll shaman and was kind of(?) a last minute addon to make the 10 required.

The real core of the original idea behind the guild was Auru, Wist and Roddingham I think. Auru, Wist(as Gyff) and either Movlo or Majias were all in Soldiers of Steel(or similar name) and said 'we could run a better guild than this'. Most of the others were people they exp'ed with back in Befallen at the time around 15th-20th level including Azargatha and Roddingham. Roddingham was heavily into the administration and leading functions, the original forums and 2 bot clerics over time.

I think Geekjoker and Keldinaar are about the oldest 2 members still active.

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Post by Keldinaar » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:58 pm

Az left the guild immediately after a major blow-up over an Epic loot at a PoSky raid. Not sure where she ended up but I haven't seen her in game in a very long time. The thing that really struck me was that the only name on that list that is still in guild and active is Jhereg, or Vanidor as some of us still remember him. The only other person I see on the list that I know is still in the game is Cuin (at least he was still playing within the last year, not sure now). In the spirit of trying to keep our history alive I thought I'd share a couple personal memories from those early days.

My first memories of CN go all the way back to September 2001, I'd be lying if I said I could remember the exact date but it was within days of the CN tag first appearing on the Vazaelle server. Keldinaar was a 20 something wizard, spending a lot of time in Freeport and hunting in the dreaded Commonlands, sometimes even going all the way out to East Karana to hunt crag spiders. This was well before there was a PoK and Soul Binders, and the only way to change your bind point was to get someone to cast Bind affinity on you, and then only in a city zone. So one night I see an OOC from a paladin named Roddingham "Looking for bind at West gate". I was already on my way there so I sent him a tell and met him at the gate for the bind. He said thanks, probably paid me 5pp (I think that was the going rate at the time) and we went our seperate ways. Couple days later I'm back in Freeport and what do I see but Roddingham "Looking for bind at West gate". I recognized the name so I sent him a tell, something like "Hey, you again! " and met him for the bind. We started talking a little bit and somewhere along the way he asked if I'd thought about joining a guild. At this point the game was all still pretty new to me so i told him I had considered it but honestly hadn't given it much thought. Keep in mind, at this point in time it wasn't all that uncommon to see someone even up into thier 30's or 40's running around unguilded. Rodd said his guild was doing a raid in Runneye on Wednesday (this was Monday) and invited me to come along and check it out. I said thanks and that I'd try to make it if I could. Well, Wednesday came around and I somehow found my way to Runneye. When I got there the raid was already in progress but I met up with a couple members at the entrance and followed them down to level three where they added me to a group...we were camping the Sporali Moldmaster for the uber Sporali Defenders Blade and Gloves. About 10 minutes into it someone must have realized I wasn't moving when everyone else did and I saw a "say" or "shout" that "Keld can't see the commands".....they were all being issued in guild chat. About 15 seconds later I get a Message "Gyff has invited you to join Celestial Navigators", or however the message reads, and the rest is history. I think at that time there were a whole 20 or 21 members. My recruiting process consisted of a "sponsorship" by Rodd, surviving the run into Runneye then helping kill 2 or 3 sporali's......a far cry from how we do it today.

Well, that was a lot longer than planned so I'll stop. Maybe I'll come back later and add some more history/memories in another post later.

Edit: Jhereg posted while I was writing so ignore my remarks about Az, he clearly has the better memory. And yes, I believe GJ joined CN no more than a week or two after I did so I guess we're the senior citizens along with Jhereg.
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Post by Jhereg » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:04 pm

From Jan 16 2002, this is an old spreadsheet several people worked on. Littlabit and Wist I think mainly, but I'm pretty sure one or two others did also.

Let's see Tiroleni is now Gronalk's and was originally Rodingham's.
Kiaraa and Lonehart(as Lonetrah) play again in Sequel. Balinar is in EQ2 with Dareba. Nebekenezer retired, came back and made Vorosh/new Neb, retired again. I think Auru plays WoW at the moment. Majias/Ottmani sold his accounts so that he and his wife could try to buy a house, he worked with Aelent/Vonbech in real life here in Canada a long while ago.

Kyani and Taldann were a married couple I think, played quite a while after leaving the guild in the kael days, but haven't seen in the last year roughly. Aneas and Reany were another couple, they retired from EQ. I might be mixing Reany and Kyani up though.

Littlabit and Tandt went to AD a long time ago. Evil Tandt went first and badgered her into going later on. He retired from EQ a few times, and they both did around a year ago. They played WoW for a bit but I think are retired there now, she pops in our forums occasionally.

Criploc played as of a month or two back in Tribal Fury and was in a few before then I think. Yyanlia plays on another server and comes back about every 1.5 years for a week.

Hunky sold his char to Cuin's brother a long time ago. Haljordon retired about a year or less ago, i'm bad with time :( Silverraven plays Goldraven and an enchanter, rl friend of Tandt, mainly logs in to ninja earrings in Qeynos hills I think.

Vulkyria and her son left at some point, I used to hear from them about once a year afterwards. Dareba had a similarly named shaman back then that's listed there Valkira, I used to get them confused occasionally.

Kathan got married last year and plays WoW I think sporadically. Retired a while before it came out to finish his degree.

Quillic used to make appearances briefly but played I think mainly on the Zek servers, transfered back briefly then disappeared. Salumeth used to farm luclin when it was first released, heavily farmed the Twilight armour sets and donated to the guild, retired once and came back and then left the guild a bit over a year ago I think.

Arrowhawk, retired to deal with real life issues and eventually went back to school and retrained.

Pallistous still plays ofcourse and started this thread, there he is at 37th level.

Rope, made Thread and plays with Fantasy Awakened now. He and Guyas went roughly together with Bettan though it was spaced out, and to the original Fantasy.

Lectos went to help some rl friends with their guild and his son's help. I think he briefly considered coming back but never has.

Vernathrax/Melkiah and his wife retired about 2 years ago or more came back briefly once or twice.

Bravesoull, hmmm, I got little nice to say so i'll stiffle it. Tandt deguilded him for hitting on Littlabit at least once. He was around 16 or 17 when in the guild.

Movlo, in AD and still plays as of a month or so ago.

Erasmus and Caradena play another game together I think, Dark Age of Camelot maybe or one of the others. Two of her three sons were in the guild at one point I think.

Wrygryn and Rosellia retired around the time they married, and have a child I think? This was back about 1.5 to 2 years ago.

Keldinaar and Geekjoker still play as I mentioned in the previous post. So does Woldar who I didn't skip but wanted to put in here with the other two, for a long time computer problems made him go ld a lot.

Pataze retired relatively recently. Crystalfoxx logs in occasionally.

I likely left some out of those below, but tried to cover the ones I thought I remembered correctly. My memory isn't very good :(

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1	Tiroleni	Cleric	55	Erudite	Alt Guild
2	Esiah	Monk	53	Human	Main
3	Kiaraa	Cleric	51	Human	Main
4	Lonehart	Pally 	51	Human	Main
5	Blademoor	Pally 	51	Dwarf	Alt Majias
6	Balinar	Warrior	51	Human	Main
7	Indore	Warrior	51	Troll	Alt Esiah
8	Wist	Mage	50	Gnome	Alt Gyff
9	Nebekenezer	Wizard	50	Gnome	Main
10	Kyani	Druid	48	Wood Elf	Main
11	Motrfyre	Pally 	48	Dwarf	Main
12	Criploc	Warrior	48	Human	Main
13	Yyanila	Bard	47	Wood Elf	Main
14	Aneas	Cleric	47	High Elf	Main
15	Guyas	Druid	47	Wood Elf	Main
16	Vernathrax	Pally 	46	Half Elf	Main
17	Tandt	Warrior	46	Halfing	Main
18	Reany	Druid	45	Human	Main
19	Woldar	Druid	45	Wood Elf	Main
20	Ituar	Mage	45	H.Elf	Main
21	Arrowhawk	Ranger	45	Wood Elf	Main
22	Majias	Rogue	45	Half Elf	Main
23	Taldann	Rogue	45	Barb	Main
24	Hunky	Warrior	45	Barb	Main
25	Gyff	Druid	44	Wood Elf	Main
26	Haljordon	Enchanter	44	H.Elf	Main
27	Azargatha	Necro	44	DE	Main
28	Vulkyria	Shaman	44	Barb	Main
29	Quilic	Mage	43	Erudite	Main
30	Roddingham	Pally 	42	Human	Main
31	Littlabit	Cleric	41	Dwarf	Main
32	Hurrun	Druid	40	Halfling	Main
33	Salumeth	Ranger	40	Wood Elf	Main
34	Zukulak	Shaman	40	Iksar	Main
35	Sarec	Sk	40	Iksar	Main
36	Silverraven	Warrior	40	Barb	Main
37	Emmdee	Cleric	39	Dwarf	Main
38	Kathan	Pally 	39	Human	Main
39	Rylin	Monk	38	Human	Main
40	Auru	Rogue	38	Half Elf	Main
41	Pallistous	Druid	37	Human	Main
42	Misticstars	Mage	37	Human	Main
43	Rope	Ranger	37	Human	Main
44	Lectos	Pally 	36	High Elf	Main
45	Tooth	Shaman	36	Troll	Main
46	Bravesoul	Shaman	36	Barb	Alt Bora
47	Movlo	Bard	35	Elf	Main
48	Bonham	Druid	35	Halfling	Main
49	Cuin	Druid	35	Halfling	Main
50	Trew	Enchanter	35	Erudite	Main
51	Golgo	Necro	35	Iksar	Main
52	Erasamus	Pally 	35	Dwarf	Main
53	Valkira	Shaman	35	Barb	Main
54	Keldinaar	Wizard	35	High Elf	Main
55	Geekjoker	Cleric	34	Dwarf	Main
56	Teory	Cleric	34	Halfing	Main
57	Ghinsu	Warrior	34	Iksar	Main
58	Lenyenu	Druid	33	Wood Elf	Main
59	Zala	Enchanter	33	Erudite	Main
60	Zukasik	Monk	33	Iksar	Main
61	Efthimio	Pally 	33	Human	Main
62	Wrygryn	Rogue	33	Dwarf	Main
63	Pataze	Necro	32	DE	Main
64	Caradena	Pally 	32	Human?	Main
65	Kromey	Warrior	32	Dwarf	Main
66	Saders	Cleric	31	High Elf	Main
67	Danielaa	Druid	31	Wood Elf	Main
68	Caradhas	Mage	31	Gnome	Alt Esiah
69	Galodriel	Ranger	31	Wood Elf	Main
70	Garwar	Warrior	31	Dwarf	Main
71	Zabou	Beast	30	Val Shir	Alt Esiah
72	Kellina	Cleric	30	High Elf	Main
73	Zynaestyr	Enchanter	30	High Elf	Main
74	Boramce	Warrior	30	Barb	Main
75	Gringet	Wizard	30	Erudite?	Main
76	Ozadin	Wizard	30	Erudite	Alt Guyas
77	Crystalfoxx	Ranger	28	Wood Elf	Main
78	Lill	Rogue	27	Halfling?	Main
79	Linfeara	Ranger	26	Wood Elf	Main
80	Melchiah	Sk	26	DE	Alt Vern
81	Dzauron	Cleric	25	Dwarf	Main
82	Selek	Druid	25	Wood Elf	Main
83	Cindarwolf	Druid	25	Wood Elf	Alt Mistic
84	Nanilopus	Druid	25	Wood Elf	Main
85	Dionysos	Enchanter	25	Erudite	Alt Auru
86	Lyel	Ranger	25	Wood Elf	Main
87	Banars	Ranger	25	Wood Elf	Main
88	Nton	Warrior	25	Barb	Main
89	Vanidor	Wizard	25	High Elf	Main
90	Llute	Bard	24	Wood Elf	Alt Teory
91	Aelent	Cleric	24	Human	Main
92	Jahova	Shaman	24	Barb	Alt 
93	Heydar	Warrior	24	Dwarf	Main
94	Lecros	Rogue	23	H. Elf	Alt Lectos
95	Oolof	Warrior	23	Ogre	Main
96	Sleepyelf	Wizard	23	Elf	Main
97	Jhereg	Monk	22	Iksar	Alt Van
98	Ferros	Cleric	20	Human	Main
99	Elembar	Enchanter	20	H. Elf	Alt Salumeth
100	Lagrin	Enchanter	20	High Elf	Alt Gyff
101	Larm	Monk	20	Iksar	Main
102	Oakster	Warrior	20	Human	Main
103	Loic	Bard	19	High Elf	Alt Gyff
104	Wildwinds	Warrior	18	H.Elf	Alt Aelent
105	Ottmani	Enchanter	16	Erudite	Alt Majias
106	Luline	Ranger	14	Wood Elf	Alt Geek
107	Vonbech	Warrior	13	Human	Alt Aelent
108	Koradekk	?	12	?	Son Azagatha
109	Hydee	?	12	?	Wife Auru
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Post by Keldinaar » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:13 pm

Oh my, that list brings back a lot of memories!!

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Post by Jaffod » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:47 am

OK Ottmani I remember:)

Criploc was in Pactum when I was going through my CN break - that would have been about the time of the EoTD/CN alliance getting going.

Auru does indeed play WoW - or he did when I was there lol.

I must have joined originally at about the time that this list was made as none of the AD evacuees had left. I know I was guilded someplace with Aza, which can only be CN or Walkers lol.

Ironic twist, Hunky and Trab went up for new owners in the same week. Trab first, and I snatched him. HUnky went up later - and mr Tradeskills picked him up.

I was online when Balinar umm left, now I know why.

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Post by Teory » Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:44 am

Teory Cleric 34 Halfing Main

Must have been right around when I joined as I think around 30 I was still in Avatars of the Rising Pheonix. It took Danielaa and I about a month to do level 31 as it was a "post hell level" which meant you lost twice as much of a level as you would in a normal one, and the two of us died at least once a night. And rezzes were almost non-existent.

Another one that's still around is Guyas, I think, who was playing Utudzen in FA at least 6 or 7 months ago along with Thread, whose main at the time of the shot above was "Rope Ranger 37".
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Post by Goofydoofy » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:15 am

So Jhereg has gained 5 levels in over 4 years?? Somebody PL this guy!!
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Post by Zoey » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:27 am

Jhereg spends all his time helping everyone else... it's the kind of guy he is. Amazing huh?
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Post by Silly » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:33 am

On this night in Western Commons

...and don't let Jhereg fool ya'. He's got tons of aa's ;)

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Post by Teory » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:54 am

Psst Silly... where is the zone in to Befallen?

I was one of the folks that used to group with the gang in Befallen as well but was a mage back then named Yitelar. Weight limits were a serious thing back then, as was having enough bag slots. We used to stuff ourselves til we could hardly move, including copper pieces, then sell at the little huts outside Befallen and then do a very very slow walk back to Freeport to the bank to change our copper into real money.
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Post by Silly » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:55 am

yeah yeah yeah but it wasn't IN befallen :) I may not have been there for the creation but I've seen screenshots!

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Post by Saphirone » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:41 am

Oooooh wow! I joined CN just a bit before Roselia and Wrygryn retired. I remember being sooo disappointed, because Roselia was the recruiting officer, and I just absolutely loved her to pieces!

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Post by Jhereg » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:48 am

Befallens is where most of the originals met, I met some of them first there on Vanidor but wasn't really part of the organizing other than voting in the chat room and helping slowly a bit more over time.

Here's a list from about 6 months later in August 20th, 2002. I'll do a run through of others that were not in the first list.

Akinn/Racerx and Akselo/Geadin left long ago, I think the original Akselo still plays.

Armew is in Triality these days, saw him a couple months back. Triality didn't exist in those days though, its a splitoff by a few officers of another guild. Kerena/Windiili/Zillie would remember the original guild's name I think since she was in there by then I think.

There's Azurefox and Blackbane! Well before Azurefox started his new Fellowship(if i remember right that's the name) and moved. Blackbane plays Guild Wars mainly I think now.

Bettan's there, he and Guyas/Utudzen are close friends in rl I think.

Bonham is there, I think he plays with Tribal Fury now and I could swear he's related to Cuin or got invited by Cuin to CN back then but honestly not sure.

Brystoco is there, he's been in game and out with his wife the last 2 years but he was pretty active back then.

Dakron left to help friends and later became a guild leader/raid leader? of a friends guild he worked on I think. I might have gotten him and Lectos from the previous post mixed up though. This was around the time that xp in the Umbral Plains and was uber and maybe Planes of Power were about to be released.

Dangeruss and Lnwolf were friends I think. Lnwolf came back a year ago to play after a long absence but he had started a business and being the owner was eatting up masses and masses of hours and had little time for any game.

Dree, he made the shaman later on or bought him and is in AD now. He left around the time we were in low PoP and maybe valor/storms had been opened up by the coding changes?? The ones that let level 55th into them instead of PoJ trials only.

Gabrieal and Genelron were brother in law and brother of Littlabit respectively. Gabrieal had married her sister Samorna years back in rl and joined the guild mainly to be with them. Genelron I think was a half brother of her's, his wife later joined the guild after leaving a female only guild(Daughters of Norrath?). I think that was well after this point.

There we see the one and only policeman Fenwig, only man I've known who could sleep repeated at a desk without major injury to their forhead. Retired a long time now, maybe in WoW? Teory would know!

Ghaok, left to join Order of the Open Hand I think with Kamidari? Thoraz and Xeatau were there back then. Kamidari hadn't started Nicia then and since he's 60th would have just finished leveling for weeks in Chardok at the entrance soloing there. Ghaok's in Fantasy Awakened now I believe and has been for a year or more I think.

Graydeng, hmm, from Toronto along with Suntzao. They used to play with Littlabit a lot. I think one still plays in Triality though I am not sure if its still the original now.

There we see Guttwin, later to become known as Cruz! And Razt ofcourse.

Justwysper and Rainmare, often leading edge xp groups back then. They were usually uninterested in raiding with us but I remember getting along well with her. She plays WoW and I assume he followed since they've been dating forever. They joined AD in one of the many farming's of us. Arg.

There's Lachaise, Paladin who was likely browbeat by a certain cleric coworker into joining us. We had like 50 million paladins at one point, all of who despaired of naggy/vox giving up the scales.

Lamborn, hmm, made Lamatorn the cleric later on and left to join a girl he'd met in another guild in game if I remember right. Was several months down the line from this point. He's in Pactum now, I think the guild he joined was different though it might have been a short lasting one, not sure.

Laminate and Zurlik are in here, the original nephew and evil iksar uncle.

Lonetrah makes an appearance now, his fight with Azargatha over the Plane of Sky necro drop is why they both left. Poor planning on my part. I joined a raid late that Geekjoker was leading for Lonetrah and others for epic pieces. I didn't know Geekjoker had planned it originally for Lonetrah and apparently Azargatha didn't either when she joined earlier I think. Class leaders were supposed to make an epic order list at the time of who got the drops, she assumed she'd get it first so didn't do it. But the raid was organized as a friends raid. I overruled Geekjoker and gave to Azargatha after a few minutes of drama by the 2 necro's, in a move I still regret. She was the main and with us longer. She deguilded with it that night and lonetrah in a day or two I think. Too bad Pataze hadn't got it, he had so fewer high/low days compared to them.

Hmm, wonder why Mani isn't in there. His alt Meni is. He was a paladin (remember i said we had millions?) and retired due to lack of interest in the game eventually and I think partly because he was an emergency worker like fire fighter(as best I recall), so often had to rush out in seconds and EQ wasn't equipped with 'Return Home' and as many self gate options back then.

Ouzed, one of the nicest guys around. He was french(lived near Paris I think), could barely make himself understood half the time but helped out whenever possible. He later couldn't afford his account, I think he either lost his job or didn't have one most of the time he had played and ran out of funds. I still hear from him about once a year or a bit longer when he borrow's a friends char. He was boxed for a while after retiring by Nessie or Siderius I think?

Pohl, real life friend of Lonehart and Kiaraa is now in the guild. He still plays obviously, I think Lonehart hooked him onto EQ though I might be mixing the order backwards. Drdeath was sponsored a lot by spells from Lonetrah I think in the low levels.

Pythagoras, he and Righteous were close friends in real life I think. They were definitely in game. They left seperately though in the late kael era of the guild. Righteous to AD and Pythagoras to several guild's over time I think. I'm not sure the original Pythagoras owns the account if he's kicking around still.

Rathic. Oh god, he needed valium somedays. If some of you read the Vazaelle Community Center in the past you'd have seen some of it. I think he and Szork clashed later on a few times. Rathic made another char, a shaman perhaps and might still play?? Nice guy most of the time but I think lead an evil killsteal type guild at one point later on.

Rosellia, cutie woodelf gf of Wrygryn has joined by this point. Very helpful person, hope they are doing well still.

Ryoko's original appearance after Roddingham bought her from the Promethian Order's original player. She was uber back then and replaced Tiroleni slowly as the guild's bot cleric for raids and stuff. One of the many ways Roddingham helped the guild.

Shaeli. Well, nice girl for the most part. Shouldn't have access to chat channels since it just gets her in trouble. She played recently as the server merger I think. Beyond that I'm not sure.

Sherala, she and Missle left later on. They had met in guild and I think are married fully now. They lived down near new orleans and I've seen them since so I think they made it threw partially okay. They found the raid pace of CN to be too much and too much stress on loot in the early pop days I think. I could understand where they were coming from since we've alternated back and forth from too few raids to too many several times. I think they joined Avatars of the Rising Sun(am I making that name up?? damn my memory) or another guild.

Skinrada, retired a long time now. She and Skuully used to play regularly and date. I think that went sour over time, but Skuully's son still played in Eye of the Deceiver till they disbanded recently. He reminded me of Bravesoull(I swear there's something about 16 year old shaman's that makes them ..., well nm).

Terma, very very nice guy. If you ever meet him in game he's well worth tossing a buff on. Very little play time and eventually joined Sherala and Missle in their new guild because it was easier to keep up in levels with his real life running him ragged.

Toldor, WRU!

There we see the evil Trabayre, Jaffod had joined us around the time the original Union (about 5 guilds all but us gone for raiding purposes had formed it) was disolving I think.

Vanroc, now Vanmancer and several lesser Van's is in here.

Wenvarwen, left to AD later, before Justwysper and Rainmare I think. He was looking for a much more raid orientated guild I think. I believe he helped lead some raids just before he left, very good player.

Zukoy you see there in his original appearance in the guild. Zurlik I mentioned up above with his nephew.

Again I left some out that I either didn't remember surely enough or didn't have even fake/confused memories of.

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Aalilaarla	Necro	20+	erudite	Alt to aniea
Acanthus	Wizard	30+	human	Alt to auru
Akinn	Monk	45+	Iksar	Main
Akselo	Bard	40+	Val Shir	Alt to Geadiin
Aledrinker	Cleric	30+	dwarf	Alt to Skuully
Aludaen	Ranger	45+		Main
Aniea	Monk	30+	Human	Alt Daniel
Apililin	Wizard	45+	H.Elf	Alt to drakktor
Ariall	pally	30+	human	Alt to kiaraa
Armew	bl	55+	Val Shir	Main
Arrowhawk	Ranger	50+	W Elf	Main
Asmodeos	sk	50+	d.elf	Main
Auru	Rogue	50+	Half Elf	Main
Azargatha	Necro	50+	DE	Main
Azurefox	Warrior	50+	Dwarf	Main
Balaforge	Cleric	50+	Human	Main
Balinar	Warrior	50+	Human	Main
Balldanor	Warrior	50+	human	Main
Bettan	Druid	50+	Halfling	Main
Bilzbub				Main
Blackbane	Cleric	45+	d.elf	Main
Blademoor	Pally	50+	Dwarf	Alt Majias
Bojinx	Ranger	35+	H.Elf	Main
Bonham	Druid	35+	Halfling	Main
Bortok	Druid	20+	H.Elf	alt to lachaise
Brystoco	pally	50+	Dwarf	Main
Buaz	sk	50+	troll	Main
Callelwynn	Druid	15+	w.elf	Alt to Motyfre
Carminia	Bard	10+	w.elf	Alt to az
Champayne	Beastlord	30+	Val Shir	alt to justwysper
Chantarna	Enchanter	25+	erudite	Alt to Skinrada
Charthiz	Monk	20+	Iksar	Alt to balldanor
Cindarwolf	Druid	25+	W Elf	Alt Mistic
Criploc	Warrior	50+	Human	Main
Cuin	Druid	50+	Halfling	Main
Cymarron	bl	25+	Val Shir	Alt to Rainmaire
Daederion	Druid	55+		Main
Daidre	Enchanter	45+	erudite	Main
Dakron	SK	50+	DE	Main
Dalafha	pally	50+	Dwarf	Main
Dangeruss	Pally	45+	High Elf	Main
Danielaa	Druid	30+	W Elf	Main
Delanni	Cleric	15+	Dwarf	Alt to Rosalina
Dinadil	Ranger	25+	w.elf	Alt to balldanor
Doey	Druid	25+	Halfling	Alt to Styhl
Doladan	Druid	25+	human	alt to balinar
Drakktor	Cleric	50+	Dwarf	Main
Dree	Ranger	45+	W Elf	Main
Drud	Druid	35+	Halfling	Alt to Lullabyweaver
Fastfistin	warrior	30+	Halfling	Alt to Movio
Fenwig	Wizard	45+	Gnome	Main
Feshnoz	Wizard	50+	erudite	Alt to Fobas
Filae	pally	45+	H.Elf	Main
Fyzal	Enchanter	20+		Alt to Wyrgryn
Gabrieal	Shaman	35+	Barb	Main
Geadiin	Ranger	50+	w.elf	Main
Geekjoker	Cleric	50+	Dwarf	Main
Genelron	Ranger	45+	human	Main
Ghaok	Warrior	50+	Ogre	Main
Gluttonie	Necro	50+	d.elf	Alt to Imaz
Goefling	Cleric	25+	Halfling	Alt to wenvarwen
Graydeng	Ranger	45+	w.elf	Main
Guttwin	Druid	50+		Main
Guyas	Druid	50+	W Elf	Main
Gyff	Druid	45+	W Elf	Main
Haljordon	Enchanter	50+	H.Elf	Main
Healingwolf	Druid	30+		Alt to filaes
Hiroshi	Bard	50+		Main
Hruk	Bard	30+	Val Shir	Alt to gyff
Hydee	Druid	20+	W Elf	Main
Inkoming	Warrior	50+	Ogre	Alt to Yyanlia
Ituar	Mage	50+	H.Elf	Main
Jerryvulcan	Wizard	35+		Main
Jhereg	Monk	50+	Iksar	Alt Van
Justwysper	Enchanter	60	H.Elf	Main
Kaldolur	Pally	45+	Dwarf	Main
Kamidari	Shaman	60		Main
Kandaan	Druid	50+	W Elf	alt to zurlik
Katayna	bl	40+	Val Shir	Main
Kathan	Pally	50+	Human	Main
Katidari	Warrior	55+		Main/alt
Keldinaar	Wizard	45+	High Elf	Main
Kiaraa	Cleric	50+	Human	Main
Kikkinit	monk	20+		Alt to finwig
Koradekk	Rogue	15+	Dwarf	alt to az son
Korey	Druid	40+	human	Alt to Littlabit
Kormad	Warrior	25+	Barb	Alt to aelent
Koulman	Shaman	50+	Barb	Alt to armew
Lachaise	Pally	45+	Human	Main
Lagrin	Enchanter	35+	High Elf	Alt Gyff
Lalara	Druid	40+		Alt to Caradina
Lamborn	Pally	50+	Human	Main
Laminate	Enchanter	50+	H.Elf	Main
Lamorn	Monk	15+	human	Alt to Quinyans
Lappy	Enchanter	25+	H.Elf	Alt to Lachaise
Leadaar	war	15+		Alt to keldinaar
Leaff	Druid	45+	human	Main
Lecros	Rogue	25+	H. Elf	Alt Lectos
Lectos	Pally	50+	High Elf	Main
Lilslaget	Shaman	50+	Barb	Main
Littlabit	Cleric	50+	Halfling	Main
Llute	Bard	30+	W Elf	Alt Teory
Lnwolf	Pally	45+	Human	Main
Lonehart	Pally	50+	Human	Main
Lonetrah	Necromancer	55+	Human	alt to loneheart
Loril	Warrior	20+	Val Shir	alt to lachaise
Lovei	Monk	20+	Human	alt to val
Luline	Ranger	15+	W Elf	Alt Geek
Lullabyweaver	Bard	40+	H.Elf	Main
Lyel	Ranger	25+	W Elf	Main
Majias	Rogue	45+	Half Elf	Main
Malace	Necro	20+	Gnome	Alt to JW
Mandos	Necro	20+	Gnome	Alt to Rainmare
Mechancete	sk	15+	d.elf	Alt to az
Melchiah	Sk	25+	DE	Alt Vern
Meni	Cleric	30+	dwarf	Alt Mani
Meralda	Cleric	15+	DE	Alt to Az
Minnon	Druid	50+		Main
Missle	Ranger	45+	H.Elf	Main
Mistressfrye	Cleric	35+	H.Elf	Alt to Lullabyweaver
Miykal	Druid	40+	human	Main
Motrfyre	Pally	50+	Dwarf	Main
Movlo	Bard	35+	Elf	Main
Nastufaru	Mage	45+	Erudite	Alt to tandt
Orruar	Cleric	55+		
Ottmani	Enchanter	60	Erudite	Alt Majias
Oumn	Enchanter	25+	Erudite	Alt to Rope
Ouzed	Mage	60	human	Main
Ozadin	Wizard	30+	Erudite	Alt Guyas
Pallistous	Druid	45+	Human	Main
Pataze	Necro	35+	DE	Main
Pedera	Druid	40+		Alt to Geadiin
Pimley	Monk	15+	human	Alt to Luddace
Pohl	Pally	50+	Human	Main
Pporter	Druid	50+		Main
Pythaguras	cleric	40+		Main
Racerx	Druid	45+	Halfling	Alt to akinn
Rainmare	Pally	50+	H.Elf	Main
Rathic	sk	45+	iskar	Main
Righteous	pally	50+	H.Elf	Main
Roddingham	Pally	50+	Human	Main
Roknogin	Cleric	30+	Dwarf	Alt Arrow
Rope	Ranger	45+	Human	Main
Rosellia	Druid	45+	W Elf	Main
Roxane	Druid	50+		alt to daidre
Ryoko	cleric	60	human	Main
Samorna	Druid	30+	human	Main
Scored	Bard	40+	H.Elf	Main
Sebrasis	Warrior	51+	iskar	
Shabukka		25+		alt to ottimani
Shaeli	Ranger	45+	w.elf	Main
Sherala	Druid	45+	w.elf	Main
Shralis				alt to drugin
Skinrada	Mage	50+	erudite	Main
Skuully	Shaman	50+	Barb	Main
Snakeskyn	Monk	35+		Alt to motrfrye
Stavros	Cleric	15+	d.elf	Alt to gyff
Styhl	Warrior	50+	Barb	Main
Suntzao	Ranger	45+	H.Elf	Main
Suweliar	Monk	25+	Iksar	Main
Tadie	bl	25+	 ogre	Alt to aniea
Tandt	Warrior	55+	Halfing	Main
Tedie 	bl	25+	Ogre	Aniea/Danielaa hubby
Tenbear		25+		Alt to Dika
Teory	Cleric	45+	Halfing	Main
Terma	pally	25+	dwarf	Main
Thorryn	Pally	50+		Main
Thuunderstorm	Druid	40+		Main
Tiroleni	Cleric	55+	Erudite	Alt Guild
Toldor	Druid	50+	w.elf	Main
Tolgar	Warrior	45+	Barb	Main
Trabayre	Shaman	50+	Barb	Main
Trevelyan	cleric	50+	h.elf	Main
Trinne	cleric	20+		alt to daidre
Trubel	Bard	35+	Half Elf	Alt Fenwig
Tumadan	Warrior	15+	Barb	Alt to Lamborn
Utudzen	sk	35+	Ogre	Alt to guyas
Uuhyaan	Cleric	50+		Main
Valkira	Shaman	35+	Barb	Main
Vanidor	Wizard	25+	High Elf	Main
Vanroc	Druid	50+	W Elf	Main
Vernathrax	Pally	50+	Half Elf	Main
Vilrath	Necro	50+	erudite	Main
Viscrua	Necro	35+	d.elf	Alt to luxun
Vorpaal	Wizard	50+	d.elf	Main
Vypera	Druid	25+	w.elf	Alt to Rainmaire
Wegas	Ranger	45+	w.elf	Alt to toldor
Wenvarwen	Ranger	50+		Main
Wist	Mage	55+	Gnome	Alt Gyff
Wizalot	Wizard	50+		Main
Woldar	Druid	50+	W Elf	Main
Wrygryn	Rogue	45+	Dwarf	Main
Wyspa	Druid	40+	W Elf	alt to justwysper
Xacheb	Monk	30+		Alt to luxun
Yitelar	Mage	25+	Erudite	Alt to Teory
Yyanila	Bard	50+	W Elf	Main
Zukoy	Mage	35+	human	Main
Zurlik	Monk	50+	Iksar	Main

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Post by Silly » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:05 am say you have a bad memory, Jher? Whew, all of that was several years ago, I'm impressed!

I joined CN a little over 2.5 years ago, Silly was level 59. My first raid with CN was in Plane of Fear a few months before I joined. I was also guildinvited in Plane of Fear (Though I can't remember if it was Amythiest or Teory who invited me). I joined CN mostly to be with people like Kormad, Anareon, Movlo, Lachaise, Amy, & Teory (that uber cleric I heard SO much about before I ever met & was slightly-yet lovingly- jealous of ;)) I also went on a PoD raid in the caves and did some exping and once I met Wry, Rosie, Wist & the rest of the bunch; I saw that everyone was just the nicest most fun bunch of people ever.

I had been looking at 3 guilds to join after I realized Chosen Champs wasn't the right place for me (Pactum, Epic Heroes, & CN). I knew a few more people in CN and they had he most active message board of the three so I made my decision to apply here.

Well I never once have regretted the choice! When EH said they had a few interested in CN I was ecstatic. What a fantastic bunch, it was like getting the best of both worlds. I think I told that to most of the EH but if for some reason I haven't yet, well...thanks for looking at CN :)

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Post by Terranya » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:09 am

Triality didn't exist in those days though, its a splitoff by a few officers of another guild. Kerena/Windiili/Zillie would remember the original guild's name I think since she was in there by then I think.
Hmm thinking .. maybe it was called Forsaken Unity? So many came and went over the years :)

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Post by Teory » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:30 am

Graydeng, hmm, from Toronto along with Suntzao. They used to play with Littlabit a lot. I think one still plays in Triality though I am not sure if its still the original now.
Oddly enough both of them joined CNWow for a little while though don't think they stayed around all that long. They kept buying massive amounts of plat off playerauctions to gear themselves up :) Really fun guys though!

So many names in there that you only remember when you see them again - dear little Terma!

As for our infamous missing former guild leader Gyff/Wist, he's been playing WoW with a bunch of folks from his job, though had a death in the family recently and figures he was probably booted out of his hardcore raiding guild - he was killin dragons in WoW while I was still fighting "An even bigger kobold".
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Post by Silly » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:37 am

Well if he was booted out of his uberhardcore wow guild...he still has a good handful of people here who'd welcome him with open arms ;)

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Post by Xril » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:12 pm

Wow, all these memories of the past are bringing up my own memories from back when I was just a wee player not only on this server, but my old server innorruuk.

I only wish I could share in such old memories and cherished moments and had I originally been on this server, I'm sure CN would have made as large an impact as it has in the life of Xril.

I just want to say from the beginning of the guild until now, you have seemed to keep the fun aspect of the game alive in many people.
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Post by Akgriz » Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:41 pm

If you mention the Union,,, I will log on and shoot you Jher,,, and I am sure Jaffod will still like to repeatedly train Roddingham for that time lost, tho the friendship between Order of the Open Hand and CN will last for more years than we will all remember,,lol,
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Post by Fuddara » Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:25 pm

I joined shortly after that second list was taken, I'm pretty sure anyway. I know that Feshnoz wasn't in the guild when I joined (I'll refrain from saying the things I want to say about him), though I do recognize about 90% of the names from that list.

And Terr, I remember Forsaken Unity (FU), though I'm not sure if it was the guild that spawned Triality or not.

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Post by Kerena » Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:20 pm

Triality was more an offshoot of Sonnet, which was an offshoot of Midsummer Knights, which was formed shortly after the server had gone live. Originally discussed and set in motion by three people (thus the tri) Sendaught, Aarcanus and Kerena.
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Post by Jaffod » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:04 am

Hmm I wonder why Jaffod is not on that list? Trab is and I was in CN before the original Trab joined - he came in with the Vengeful Dragons folks.

Greydeng left for Triality (I think), he was very much into the uber raid stuff, he persuaded Sun to go with him. I always got on very well with those two, was very happy to see them surface in WoW. I think that the one left in EQ is a sold toon - trying to recall who sold their account

Missle (or Missleman before the name police made him change it) and Sherala met in a guild called Dawn of Sovereignty. One evening that guild lost 7 of 10 officers including the leader, basically only Jaff and Missle remained. I bailed about 3 days after when my DoN friends formed Fate's Echo. There was a ton of animosity there. My ex used to love to taunt Missle whenever she could lol, some of the ooc stuff was amusing. I unfortunately unloaded some crap into /gu instead of as a /t to Teory that was embarassing. They used to live in FL but may have moved after they got together.

Brystyco was also in DoN for a while - I was glad to see him surface in CN.

As for the Union...I do not blame Roddy for that. It was a post he made on the VCC that insipred it - basically because the Alliance had stopped taking guilds in. I was on good terms with Whizbang at the time and wish I had listened to his 'dont do it' advice :) . I rounded up folks from the interested guilds, including Fates Echo (my guild:) ), CN and OoH. As for the others I cannot remember - the shorty guild was involved Munchkins of Mayhem? but they were basically dead. The only regret was allowing Black Reign to join at the last minute. I got to know Gyff and Roddy well, so when I left Fate's - was a bad personal time for me then - Roddy welcomed me into CN. The Union was basically dead in the water - CN tried to arrange some stuff, but Black Reign folks started to piss and moan about CN taking over etc. The Union ended up being a way to track the OoH/CN friendship so it did have a good ending. Was a hectic time trying to set it up though - Jaffod could have died a ton more times :).

Geadiin left to form his own guild, but that did not go the way he wanted and last I talked to him he was in Walkers.

I have some fun memories of Shaeli also - I agree on the chat channels thing lol.

Maybe this roster was taken as I left for Walkers? Maybe I had not deguilded TRab yet? Hmm
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Post by Jhereg » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:47 pm

I didn't explain exactly how the Roster was done, both those above were done from /who all GUILD, /who GUILD over time and asking people their levels. I think the Guild Management tool and its ability to list everyone first showed around april 20 2003, so tons of characters could be in the guild but if they didn't log on the week a roster was being made up it wouldn't be noticed.

I mainly left out real names, phone numbers and email addresses since there were a few fields there for those who gave out the info back then. It was mainly an idea to get a feel for how strong we were and how to contact people for raids.

Anyone remember the email contact list Geekjoker had setup? I still have a few of those in my CN folder of my email program. Since we had few regular raids and more pickup's we'd try and announce a day or so ahead of when things would happen if possible. That's how I remember them anyway.

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Post by Jaffod » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:39 pm

Sorry Jher, I guess things like this fascinate me. I am trying to place my dates here lol

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Post by Buaz » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:06 pm

8-20-02 ... /sigh
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Post by Siderius » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:51 pm

Anyone remember the email contact list Geekjoker had setup?
I do, I have not cept any mails from it.. but I was on it and I remember I registered when I just had joined the guild. And I was a young and stupid wizard and very impressed over the guild (I am still impressed btw hehe).

Its use was slowly stopping I think I only got like 3 mails from it total.
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Post by Ryanakris » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:39 am

To keep the history going; there was a guild named Order of the Open Hand who had been around on Vaz for a LONG time. They were fast friends with CN and loved to get together with them for whatever was happening. /derail That was when I met some AWESOME people, Teory; Chaise, Morggie...omg...dragons...YES!!...and so many more!...Tooo many to mention!.../derail off

So Open Hand was the Little Guild that Could...but wanted to do more. CN welcomed ALL OF US with open arms! This was a long time ago when it would benefit both of us to become one. Little did we know that our family just got bigger. We met with many people and formed bonds; or got closer to many that are; and always will be our friends. Some of us don't play EQ1 these days, but the people we've bonded with are STILL our friends; in every meaning of the word. We are in touch by email, through other games, PM's and so on. I have to say; I am proud that if I ever log on, there is a CN tag on my head. There are too many of you to name ; but I'm hoping you all know how very much I care for you... and one more thing...(Truth...It's my turn for jokes when we do the TM mobs...hehe..but yours are SO GOOD!)! I am so PROUD of you all and know you will KEEP ROCKIN'...YAY CN! HUGS to you all and I think of you guys so much and ....well you just ROCK!

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